Randy Abernethy (Managing Partner of RX-M, LLC) takes a seat with Clyde Seepersad (General Manager of Training and Certification of The Linux Foundation) to discuss his work and role in the Linux Foundation. Their discussion covers topics such as the establishment of certifications, the success of CKA & CKAD exams, failed and retired programs, and how the Linux Foundation has set up exams to ensure test-takers are prepared to be in a realistic environment where these technologies will be used. They are “dedicated to building sustainable ecosystems around open source projects to accelerate technology development and industry adoption.” Seepersad stays true to this message in the interview, describing his team as a “general contractor” that is here to fill the gaps on training and certification.